Blair did what HE thought was right (like all dictators)
@ 2007-05-11 - 12:46:01Mr Blair is finally leaving.
Some of his speech comments were very revealing about his attitude to the people of this country.
"putting the country first....means doing what you genuinely believe to be right. Your duty is to act according to your conviction"
Of unexpected events - "Sometimes...you are alone with your own instinct"
On responding to 9/11 "I decided ... out of belief"
HELLO, You were leader of a DEMOCRATIC country!
You should be elected to serve the will of the people wether we people are right or wrong. That's up to us and we should decide what consequences we will accept, not 1 person deciding for all of us.
These remarks are the same reasoning every dictator and aboslute ruler everywhere and in every age has used to justify themselves. You are in good company Mr Blair - Hitler, Saddam, Stalin, all may have used such words to justify their actions and decisions.
The terrible thing is our so called 'democracy' allows him and other prime ministers to get away with it and this clearly shows it needs a change.
But it won't happen, they have the power, won't give it up and above all, don't trust the people of this country to do what is right for the political establishment.
Perhaps Mr Brown may prove to be different, I live in hope, but with little expectation
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How would you change it? Should the people vote everytime a decision needs to be made? That would be rather time consuming and difficult to administer.
A representative democracy, like Britain's, seems to be the best way to do things in the modern age. The people elect their representatives to lead and to govern. If they don't like what they've done, they can vote them out.
Is there any reason to lump Blair in with the rogues you refer to in your post? It seems a little over emotional.
| tregeddow [Member] 11/05/07 @ 14:04 |
What has annoyed me is that he (one individual) is arrogant enough to beleive he knows what is best for the rest of us.
Don't forget Hitler came to power in a democratic election, we've been lucky in this country (so far).
Our democracy gives us a say only once every 4-5 years, excepting what can be gained by protest. Government in recent times never represents a majority of voters, let all those elibgible to vote. Spineles parties won't stand up to their leaders unless things get really bad.
It's not the best way. I beleive we should elect some of parliament every year, using more representative voting systems. We should have more defined limitations on the power of the prime minister and government, which could be voted on by the people. This would allow essential decisions to be taken but retain reasonable democratic control and hopefully accountability.
If Brown has the courage to take real steps to reform out constitution in favour of greater popular democracy then his legacy may outlast that of Mr Blair and Thatcher
The idea of a rotating fragment (like the mid-terms in the US) is not a bad one, but might encourage people to take a very short-term view of things. It's one thing that might be considered if we have a fully elected House of Lords (we'd call it a Senate, I guess).
Be careful in thinking that proportional systems are better for democracy. The electoral system the UK currently employs is great in that it gives the electorate a direct link with a person (the MP) - regardless of whether you vote for him or her, the MP is your representative. Here, in Poland, there is no direct link (there are regional lists) and it is a breeding ground for shoddy politicians and corrupt practices.
I don't think direct democracy would work. Referendums are not a good idea - they are a blunt instrument and not sophisticated enough to decide on critical issues.
Finally, your point about Hitler: he was not conjured up out of thin air so cannot, truly, be a lesson that every normal country can produce a monster - his election and dictatorship were a reflection of various cultural and economic factors - one way or another, Germany would have lurched to extremism of some kind. Also, he never had a majority in parliament.
I think Brown's flame will burn quickly and he'll be out in 2009.
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